Before the Internet, I can imagine that the art of sampling was much more arcane.  I wish I could speak from experience in this case, but I am a child of the Digital Age.  My venture into hip-hop began well after global interconnectivity was established.  We now live in a world where it is nearly impossible to not know the samples behind one’s favorite hip-hop or R&B record.  With sites like and, one can look up a track and immediately find where all the track’s chops came from.  This all comes complete with YouTube videos and Spotify links, and the exact time where one can find a sampled portion in an original track.

However, even when information can be shared freely in massive online communities like WhoSampled, there remain a few cuts plucked out of obscurity that still have yet to be explained or found.  Here are five such samples:

5. “Down Syndrome,” De La Soul (from Stakes is High)

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The drums are from Jeff Beck’s “Come Dancing,” a popular break that has been sampled countless times in hip-hop.  The vocal sample is clearly James Brown, from “Talking Loud and Saying Nothing,” which has also been sampled extensively.  But where is the piano from?  One of the best aspects of the track is the tension between the bass and piano samples (for the music nerds out there, it’s because the piano is playing minor 6th chords, which are already tense, while the bass cycles between the root and the 6th of the chord).

4. “Dynamite,” The Roots (from Things Fall Apart)

I must admit – the inclusion of “Dynamite” in this list is a stretch, because the sample has already been identified.  “Dynamite” appeared on The Roots’ classic 1999 album Things Fall Apart, and the beat was cooked up by none other than the late J Dilla.  Jay Dee truly dug the main guitar progression out of the crates because the sample is from a 1960s jazz group called Nirvana.  It is indeed apparent that Kurt Cobain was not the first to use the Sanskrit term as a band name.  However, the Nirvana of the 1960s must have faded into obscurity because there is no information to find on the group.  The sample was found on a 2005 Questlove mix called “The Lesson.”

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3. “Bring Da Ruckus,” Wu-Tang Clan (from Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers))

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One can guess that the RZA discovered all this track’s samples in old kung fu flicks– except for the drums.  Many of 36 Chambers‘ other kung fu samples have been tracked down.  However, “Bring Da Ruckus” and “Da Mystery of Chessboxin'” are yet to be explained.

2. “Thieves in the Night,” Black Star (from Mos Def and Talib Kweli are Black Star)

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This track is one of my favorites from Mos and Kweli.  It is a lyrical masterpiece, delving into a quote from Toni Morrison’s “The Bluest Eye” at a depth that Ms. Morrison would surely appreciate.  88-Keys, who produced the track, used a piano sample that remains undiscovered.  Judging by the voicings and the touch, it sounds as if it could be Bill Evans.

1. “ALL CAPS,” Madvillain (from Madvillainy)

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No list of obscure samples would be complete without a Madlib track.  The drum sample has already been identified as “Bumpin’ Bus Stop” by Thunder & Lightning (hip-hop heads may recognize the “Step Up!” vocal sample in this track that Tupac and InI, among many others, made famous).  Based on a tip from a Wikipedia article, I tracked down the “car chase” outro sample to an episode of the 70s detective show Ironside, entitled “Up, Down and Even.”  Anyone who wants to check it out may find the episode on NBC’s Hulu streaming service.

The confusion in this track lies in the time-shifted piano sample and the horn/string samples that cycle through the beat and provide the backbone for the entire song.  My best guess is that these samples were found in other 70s detective and police shows like Ironside.

Words by Cale Hawkins


8 Replies to "Uncharted Territory: 5 Hip-Hop Samples That Have Yet To Be Found"
November 21, 2012 at 2:08 pm

Update: after further research, I’ve found that Nirvana (the group that was sampled for “Dynamite” by the Roots) was the name of a quartet led by jazz guitarist Bucky Pizzarelli (who I have, coincidentally, seen live in concert before) and Zoot Sims. Milt Hinton is on bass and Buddy Rich is the group’s drummer.

There was also a group from the UK named Nirvana that was active during the 1960s, but they were a prog rock group, not a jazz group. I found this incorrect information on the YouTube video of the sample, which also features an album cover from the UK prog rock group, not the jazz quartet.

Sorry for the incorrect information!

Chris says:
November 27, 2012 at 9:38 pm

The Wu-Tang sample comes from Synthetic Substitution by Melvin Bliss.

November 29, 2012 at 10:21 pm

Chris – Yes, but I was speaking about the organ, horns, and other assorted samples that RZA throws in. Synthetic Substitution is a commonly used break, so I assumed that sample was already evident. Thanks for reading and thanks for the feedback!

Jay Gumbs says:
January 26, 2013 at 2:34 pm

Two others I’m interested in that they still haven’t found yet.

Raekwon – Knowledge God (produced by RZA)
Jay-Z – Bring It On (not the Fat Joe vocal). (produced by Premo)

I would be so happy when they find these.

Matt Weber says:
February 8, 2014 at 6:17 pm

Does “Thieves In the Night” sample the beginning of “Nardis {2nd Set} off of Bill Evan’s Turn Out the Stars: The Final Village Vanguard Recordings, June 1980?

bearfeet says:
June 10, 2014 at 3:42 pm

The sample on all caps was from ‘little house on the prarie’

    Danny boi says:
    July 27, 2014 at 3:36 am

    can you give a link of the sample so we can see it?

Help a brother out says:
September 2, 2014 at 8:31 pm

I’m absolutely convinced nobody will ever find the vocal sample DJ Premier used on Cormega’s song ‘Dirty Game’. The part that goes “a damn shame, the streets is a dirty game but niqqas stay strapped”. There’s way too much underground east coast hip hop to go through for my liking but check it out and let me know if you recognise it.

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